1. So suppose I was a dualist.
假设我是二元论者。

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2. On the dualist view, what was death?
二元论认为,什么是死亡?

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3. That's the dualist view.
这就是二元学说论。

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4. Dualist could say that.
二元论者确实可以这么说。

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5. If your answer is no, you are a closet dualist.
如果你的回答是不,那你私下里就是个二元论者。

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6. So this first view we can call "The dualist view."
第一个观点我们把它称作"二元论"

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7. So this first view we can call "the dualist view."
这个第一个观点我们把他叫做“二元学说”。

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8. Well again, that doesn't prove the dualist is wrong.
那并不能证明二元论是错的

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9. There's the dualist view — people are bodies and souls.
那就是二元学说论——人是身体和灵魂。

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10. A born non-dualist, he had no faith in a Personal God.
他是一个天生的非人格主义者,不相信人格化的神。

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11. I don't actually think that the dualist view is correct.
我并不很认为二元学说是正确的。

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12. Let me say something more then about the dualist position.
就二元论观点,我再多说几句。

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13. A far more uh, worrisome for the dualist, do animals have minds?
关于二元论还有更多的担忧,动物们有思维么?

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14. The dualist can explain that by appealing to ghosts and the like.
二元论者可以诉诸鬼魂之类的来解释。

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15. So that's I think the position that we ought to ascribe to the dualist.
所以我认为,这应归入二元论者的立场。

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16. The alternative view that we're going to consider is not dualist, but monist.
另外一个我们将要顾及的观点不是二元学说,是一元论学说。

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17. Dualist, of course, because there's two basic components — the body and the soul.
二元论,当然。因为这里有两个基本组成物质——身体和灵魂。

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18. The philosophical dualist questions the extent and accuracy of that correspondence;
二元的哲学问题的程度和准确性的函件;

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19. The dualist position is that the mind is a soul and the soul is an immaterial object.
二元论认为心灵就是灵魂,而灵魂是一种非物质实体。

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20. But I don't think what we should say is, "the better explanation lies with the dualist."
但我们也不能说,二元论的解释更好。

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21. Plato, as a dualist, portrays Socrates as being a dualist and that's just taken for granted.
作为一个二元论者,柏拉图理所当然地,把苏格拉底塑造成一个二元论者。

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22. According to the dualist, the mind is this immaterial substance and we could call it by different names.
按照二元学说论,心灵是这种非物质的物体,我们能叫他不同的名字。

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23. Well, the dualist says, "that shows us that we have to believe that there's something non-physical about us."
二元论者认为,这表明我们必须相信,人有非物质性的一面。

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24. I don't feel I've got any sort of account going here as to how consciousness works, even if I become a dualist.
我觉得就算我是一个二元论者,我也还是不懂这番对于意识的解释。

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25. So although I'm trying to sketch the dualist position, as I explained on Tuesday, I don't myself believe in souls.
所以尽管我试着描述二元学说论,如我星期二所阐述的,我自己不相信灵魂。

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26. Though it does seem, from this dualist perspective, as though souls are located, I'm sort of viewing the world from here.
虽然看起来,就二元论观点而言,灵魂是有位置的,我可以从这里看到世界。

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27. If we had a dualist explanation with some details really worked out, maybe we'd have to say, "Look, this is the better explanation."
如果我们拥有一个,既可行又详尽的二元论解释,也许我们就会说,看哪,这才是更好的解释。

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28. Now, I think the best response on the part of the dualist to this reply is to distinguish two aspects of feelings, two aspects of emotions.
现在,我认为二元论者对这一答复的,最好回应,就是区分感受的两方面,情绪的两个方面。

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29. When I use the word "Soul," I'm going to have in mind this dualist view according to which the soul is something immaterial, nonphysical.
当我用"灵魂"这个词时,我会采用二元论思路,因为他们认为,灵魂是非物质,非物理的

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30. When I use the word "soul," I'm going to have in mind this dualist view according to which the soul is something immaterial, nonphysical.
当我用“灵魂”这个词时,我将会在脑中泛起二元学说论的灵魂,一种非物质,无形的东西。

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